[tshiozak@bsdclub.org: Re: XFree86 4.0.2 released]

["Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net>]

關於最近xfree86的Xutf* API, 對CJK來說非常不好,
請見http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/i18n/2000-December/

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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:50:26 +0900 (JST)
From: "T.SHIOZAKI" <tshiozak@bsdclub.org>
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.2 released
To: dawes@XFree86.Org
Cc: i18n@XFree86.Org, bsd-locale@hauN.org, li18nux@li18nux.net
Cc: tech-x11@netbsd.org, i18n@freebsd.org, tech@openbsd.org
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From: David Dawes <dawes@XFree86.Org>
Subject: XFree86 4.0.2 released
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:20 -0500
Message-ID: <20001219165120.S874@XFree86.Org>

> XFree86 4.0.2 is now available.

Incredible.

You know that we are discussing about an important thing, that is to say,
whether 4.0.2 should include Xutf8*, don't you?

Please stop distributing it immediately.


BTW,
Hiura-san, if XFree86 project neither stop distributing 4.0.2
nor revoke Xutf8* from the CVS repository, we should plan a new
X distribution project for UNIXen, which has the client set based
on SMI's I18N stuffs, which has the server set derived from XFree86 DDX
(and also incooperates non-IA32 DDX platforms), and which is more harmonious
with some UNIX vendors, X.Org and Li18nux (and of course *BSD), shouldn't we?
Aside from Xutf8* being really wrong or not, I feel distrustful about
the determining process whether 4.0.2 includes Xutf8*.
I wouldn't put it past them to enforce even the locale-elimination
advocated by Markus.  I'm really afraid of it.
So, we would have no choice but to make a drastic cut in the near future,
if we should accept Xutf8* now.

Xutf8* lacks the user/market points of view in CJK, although this is
the gadget for (only a part of) developers to realize (mock) I18N/M17N.
The lack is a clear fact as far as I've heard their adovocacies,
aside from their technical misunderstanding about I18N/M17N/locale.
>From the market point of view and my experience in X-TT project,
I think the way of transition to Unicode such as SMI's Xlib
("soft landing approach") will be more widely acclaimed from
ideographic community (at least Japan).

Hiura-san, in the "worst case" I say above, I'll be able to help
this project and I wish to mediate between this project and *BSD.


--
Takuya SHIOZAKI,
Citrus Project



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